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TS/SCI security for those who don't know

There have been multiple postings about 'accidental' exposure to UAP/ARV and such. I'm in no position to judge their veracity.

However, I do have a bit of experience that might provide a useful filter when thinking about these things. In a group this size I'm sure I'm not alone and perhaps others have already posted something similar.

Decades ago I was in military intelligence. I had a TS/SCI SAP clearance. I was read into SCI, USCI and SAP programs for my job. When it ended I was read out. That's the last I've heard of any of it. I was once at a library with a TOR client and for fun, decided to just look up some of the codewords and coverwords (no content, just words) to see if anything had leaked or popped up over the years. Absolutely nothing did.

To be 'exposed' to SCI material accidentally (A hangar door left open and I glanced in) suggests a staggering breech of Op/Sec. How staggering?

Every place is different but in a TS/SCI facility like I worked in:

1. You need a special badge, with your picture, to get into a facility. If you aren't known to people you need an escort even if you are badged. The facility is multi-fenced and had armed guards patrolling. These guards live to nail people who forgot, or aren't showing their badge. I had a friend who was thrown to the snowy ground and had an M16 pointed at his head because his coat was covering his badge ON THE WAY OUT after a 12 hour shift. They take it seriously. 2. Now, you are in the building. To get into the space where you work you have a coded door to get through. The Door is on a TIGHT spring and automatically locks. It's hard to open and a pain in the ass but it is impossible to 'leave open.' If you don't know the code, you knock and have to be physically recognized or you have to go to the SSO and wait for someone to come get you who has authority and knows you are read-in. There is no possibility of someone 'following you' in. If you don't know them by sight and they are trying to get in - even with the right badge - you call for help and if no one can vouch you escort them to the SSO. 3. Even in your workspace, even with people you work with everyday, if, for some reason, something happens to your badge you are immediately escorted out of the space to the SSO until things are fixed. I had a friend who leaned over and got his badge cut partially in a big paper cutter and I immediately took him. You don't want to fuck with this and get in trouble. It redefines 'zero tolerance.' 4. The materials themselves are also locked and you also need a code. Sometimes, these materials are in a separate secure space, within a secure space, within a secure building. The most sensitive that I'm aware of required 'checking out' and two person continuity of contact (basically someone watching you while you read them). 5. Even with all of the above, even if you are read-in, if you don't have 'need to know' you don't see them. Yes, it means that sometimes your best friend, who has the same job, who works next to you everyday and is cleared for everything, who is read into the project, is not allowed access to what you are working on without Demonstrated need to know. It can get awkward.

So, in order to believe any of these stories you have to believe that person overcame all of these obstacles. If we believe people like Harry Reid, the Presidents, et al. the whole UAP/ Recovered Vehicle/ARV/ whatever is maybe the most secure information in the world. If people like the President and the intel head for the DIA can't get access is it really plausible that someone wandered in as part of a tour group, through an open hangar, etc? From my perspective anything's possible, but stuff like that is damn hard to see.

Hope this helps.

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