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Strongest argument against God's existence

This argument is common and i'm pretty sure a lot of you are familiar with it,but i actually modulated this argument and i think it's probably,if not the best argument,then one of the best for sure.I don't see how it can be refuted.

It brings in question God's omniscience and asserts that if God is truly all knowing then he knew the future even before he created the universe and he still did it regardless of knowing that it would result in Lucifer rebelling against him,Adam and Eve eating from the forbidden tree etc.. Some Christians may claim that God doesn't actually know the future or at least he doesn't have perfect knowledge of it,but that still contradicts God's omniscience and uses the wrong definition of omniscience.If God can foretell the future then God certanly knows the future and there is very strong evidence for it,also there are Bible verses about it which can't be denied and are supportive to this.

My modulated argument goes something like this

1.Abrahamic God is presented as an omniscient entity. 2."Omniscient",by definition,means that entity knows everything there is to know. 3.If he knows everything,then we must say that he knows everything that happened,that is happening now and will happen in the future. 4.Therefore God knew,even before he created the universe,what would happen in its future and all the results and consequences that would happen later. 5.Regardless of it,he created that same universe,knowing that later millions of souls will be going to hell for eternity for their actions and there is no way it could be otherwise. 6.Having the infinite number of universes available he created this one in which,when he was doing it, there was 100% accuracy that at least one soul would spend eternity in conscious torment in fire without any chance or hope for redemption. 7.The only explanation is that God is either not omniscient or not omnibenevolent and in each case it would contradict his nature. 8.Such God simply cannot exist and therefore he doesn't exist.

Now there were believers who claimed that God indeed knew it before the creation but he still decided not to change it because those consequences were somehow neccessary and that they should happen!For example:God knew humans would become wicked and sinful so he gave his only son to show humanity his greatfulness and mercy and similar things... However this would not affect the problem of going to hell as well as lots of other problems. Going to hell for eternity simply cannot be neccessary and even if only one soul goes there it would show God's cruelty.Also there is no redemption,hell is eternal and it's simply impossible to imagine how God could set up this version of universe in motion.He is either not all knowing or not all merciful and i don't see how can this be refuted.

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