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r/teenagersbutcode • … • u/shalodey

how are we feeling about how LLMs are changing programming?

i'm 17 and have programmed for like the past seven or six years. writing code is something i find extremely fun and ive put so much time and effort into it under the assumption that i'll just do it as my career when the time comes to get empl\*yed

for the longest time ive pretty much just tried ignoring LLMs entirely and continued doing my own thing, but now im coming to the realisation that Literally every single career in software engineering is just turning into LLM code. it doesnt look like its going to stop, but its obviously hard to extrapolate anything when we're in a massive economic bubble over this

ive viewed programming as a bit of an art form my entire life too. i really like looking at a project and seeing how someone approached a problem, their inspiration behind specific implementations, and whatever challenges or decisions they made along the way. with LLMs, it kinda feels like all of that is gone. the amount of times i see a programming project here or anywhere else which looks cool at first, before i realise its directed by ai, is really starting to annoy me. it doesnt help that the people heavily in defense of AI just tend to resort to calling you a luddite or smth of that variety

and like, theres quite a lot of reasons im REALLY not liking the way this is looking

* first and foremost, literally every argument against AI you've ever heard still applies to LLM programming (environment et al) * the increased reliance on LLMs for programming is making many programmers become completely useless the moment claude goes down or their internet drops out * in similar fashion, skills are beginning to atrophy in many programmers because of this * we are in a massive economic bubble, who knows whether this technology will be so readily available in the next couple years (all companies providing AI models are still drawing a massive net loss btw) * LLM subscriptions are super expensive. and while free open source models do exist, you need a ton of storage, ram, and processing power to make it viable * the programming meta is changing from planning and writing code to "go ahead and direct this army of agents to write code for you using markdown files" which... isnt fun, imo * the people supporting this are in such a weird toxic echochamber * its encouraging people to view code more as a "black box" you describe to an AI with natural language. i often see the comparison of C->compiler->ASM & Text->AI->Python, but it really feels like a false equivalence * very very dangerous precedent for the security of many applications * copyrighted code has still not been addressed

so, overall, how are yall feeling about this? i am genuinely feeling discouraged from continuing pursuing a programming career, but i seriously dont know what else id do given its half of my personality. all i know is i do not wanna touch LLMs at all

i would like civil discussion out of this, no matter what side you're on pls :3

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