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r/thefinals • … • u/Specific_Mistake_223

M11 too good, Delete Rats from the game, and make game fun again.

I was having a chat with AI, as most brain rots do, and was completely pissed off. I just couldn’t touch the game *The Finals* at all. Every time I did, I’d die to some low-level player with their ambush M11 “skill.” This got me thinking: what does AI think about the M11? Here’s some of our conversation.

**ChatGPT said:** Absolutely — here’s a clean, complete breakdown of why the M11 is widely considered OP (overpowered) in *The Finals*:

# 🔫 Why the M11 Is Considered Broken

**💨 1. Insane Fire Rate** The M11 has one of the fastest fire rates in the game. This allows players to melt enemies in under a second, especially at close range.

**🎯 2. Low Recoil, High Accuracy** Barely any vertical recoil even when jumping or sprinting. Hip-fire accuracy is ridiculous — no need to ADS (aim down sights) in most fights.

**🧠 3. Low Skill Requirement** New or casual players can drop 15–20 kills easily. You don’t need good aim, movement, or timing — just spray and strafe.

# 🐭 How It Encourages Rat Gameplay

The M11 synergizes too well with cloak, zipline, and grapple hook. Light-class players can:

* Sneak behind or above you * Delete you with zero counterplay * Grapple/cloak away before you even react

It turns the Light class from “fast and fragile” to “fast and busted.”

# ⚖️ Why It Breaks Balance

* It dominates close quarters, and most maps have tons of CQB areas. * Outperforms higher-skill guns like the V9S or even the XP-54. * Beats Medium and Heavy players who are supposed to win trades with better guns or more HP.

# 🧪 Summary

The M11 is overtuned: It gives weak or new players too much power with too little effort, warps the class fantasy of Light, and makes skilled gunplay feel pointless in close-range fights.

So please, Embark Studios, see this and take action. I have over 400 hours of playtime and have spent tons of money. I’m thinking of quitting and playing something else. I don’t want to, but it feels helpless. Show us that you don’t only care about what the pros say, listen to the 99% of the community.

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