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r/thelema • … • u/joethebeast

Any physicists out there?

I'm generally very annoyed by the ways magickal phenomena is justified by "science", which invariably betrays a misunderstanding of both disciplines.

I think magick stands perfectly well on its own merits and favor the view that to whatever extent it is or isn't objectively real is somewhat beside the point, or at least it isn't all that advantageous to draw a hard line.

That said, there are a few areas in physics where there are interesting parallels. I like to think of Nuit and Hadit (in their most materialistic aspects) as the forces that guide the Newtonian framework and Quantum Mechanical framework, respectively. You could probably rope in other members of the Thelemic pantheon too, but it's all a bit mushy.

What got me thinking about all this today was the episode of Sean Carroll's Mindscape that just dropped. I won't get too into the specifics (I'm not a physicist and would screw it up anyway) but in his interview with Tim Maudlin, Tim mentioned a new approach to addressing non-locality that might allow for faster than light communication. There were a lot of caveats (as you'd expect) but the reason I brought it up is because of an adjacent point he made in the interview.

There are a number of theories that never got off the ground *specifically* because they allowed for anomalous behavior, such as quirks in non-locality, which mainstream physics originally dismissed out of hand.

For those of you who have experience in physics or cosmology or related fields, I'm curious what your relationship is with magick. Is there ever cognitive dissonance, or can you accept both realities without feeling like there's a conflict? Does one help the other in any particular way?

And lastly... With some amount of trepidation... Do you have a preferred framework or theory of physics that *does* harmonize with or reinforce concepts in magick, even if those views are generally scorned by the mainstream? I'm pretty open-minded, but to be honest the really fringey stuff like electro-gravitics is going to be a harder sell for me. Still, feel free to try and convince me.

Thank you in advance to anyone who cares to respond, and honestly to anyone who even trudged their way to the end of this post.

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