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Can anyone help me identify the hero in the screenshot?

EDIT: People pointed out it is a Loremaster of Hoeth, which was also my initial assumption but I wasn't certain because when I tested it, my Loremasters had different icons. So I went back and did some more testing. In current vanilla, a Loremaster's icon for some reason depends on the spells they have unlocked, for example the Beast spell they have seems to always overwrite their lore icon with the icon of the lore of beasts if they have it. I tested this on:

\-Skirmish, setting the loremaster up with different spells

\-Campaign (on Eltharion's since he starts with our favorite reference guy), leveling up the Loremaster immediately with a bunch of different spells (as long as he only has his starting one, he has the icon of the lore of light, as expected)

\-Campaign (on Eltharion's again), leveling up the Loremaster turn by turn as a normal player would

Unsatisified with this, I went back and found that in past footage of the game, the Loremaster of Hoeth indeed used the generic magic icon as in the screenshot. Therefore I have to assume that the current lore icons he uses are probably a visual bug as a result of some change made after the initial Tides of Torment patch.

Now this will sound like a weird one but bear with me...

Like many others here, I have my fair share of 1000s of hours in the Total Warhammer trilogy and I usually browse forums like here in case there are people asking for advice and the like. I would like to believe that I am familiar with everything that is in the game, but this particular one has been stumping me for months.

IIRC, someone had posted this screenshot here months ago, while asking for advice about Lothern Skycutters. And while I'm pretty sure they got that advice, I saved it because at the time I was curious about the identity of the highlighted hero, next to the Mist Mage.

![img](iq1d77g6gulh1 "WHAT IS THAT MAGE HERO???")

The screenshot is rather blurry, but I am confident that instead of any of the lore icons, this seems to be a spellcaster with 4 spells leveled and the "generic" magic icon in place of a lore icon that you usually see on stuff like the Spell Browser. But no matter what, I haven't been able to recreate this in vanilla, no matter what I try. The character looks like a Mist Mage, but not quite?

Am I being colossaly dumb here and missing something obvious? Or was that person using a mod with some type of custom mage and the mod to remove the white pixel?

I appreciate this is not massively important but this has been bothering me off and on for a long time because I am a sad excuse for a human being, so I was wondering if anyone has the answer.

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