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Chaos Knights of Slaanesh; To Lance or not to Lance? Warning, there be maths ahead

Hey. I noticed stuff seemed off so I figured I'd do the math and figure out which is the better unit between the two. Then I figured I'd put it up here so other people with a similar question can reference it.

All talk will be about Chaos Knights of Slaanesh, Chaos Knights of Slaanesh (Lances), or one of the targets I will pit them against. All stats will be based on the unit & spell browser as per 2.2. Most of this can be extrapolated to other heavy cavalry units as they share similar stats.

Abbreviations:

HpM: Health per Model

A: Armor

MA: Melee Attack

MD: Melee Defence

CB: Charge Bonus

WS: Weapon Strength

AP: Armor-Piercing damage

Base: Base weapon damage

CTH: Chance to Hit

S: Sword variant

L: Lance variant

R: Regular Charge

F: Flanking Charge

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So SR is the sword variant charging from the front. While LF is the Lance variant charging a flank.

The targets will be the following units, in order:

Greenskins - Goblins

High Elves - Spearmen

Grand Cathay - Jade Warriors

Warriors of Chaos - Chaos Warriors

Dwarfs - Ironbreakers

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Basic Calculations:

SR: CTH: 44 MA + 44 CB = 88 MA +40 base CTH = 128 MA, = 128% CTH.

Damage: 46 WS, 30.5% AP = 32 Base + 14 AP.

44 CB * 0.305 (AP ratio) = 13.4 CB AP + 14 = 27.4 AP and 32 Base + 30.6 CB Base = 62.6 Base

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SF: CTH: 44 MA + 88 CB = 132 MA +40 base CTH = 172 MA, = 172% CTH

Damage: 46 WS, 30.5% AP = 32 Base + 14 AP

88 CB * 0.305 (AP ratio) = 26.8 CB AP + 14 = 40.8 AP and 32 Base + 61.2 CB Base = 93.2 Base

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LR: CTH: 42 MA + 60 CB = 102 MA +40 base CTH = 142 MA, = 142% CTH.

Damage: 46 WS, 32.6% AP = 31 Base + 15 AP

60 CB * 0.326 (AP ratio) = 19.56 CB AP + 15 = 34.56 AP and 31 Base + 40.44 CB Base = 71.44 Base

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LF: CTH: 42 MA + 120 CB = 162 MA +40 base CTH = 202 MA, = 202% CTH.

Damage: 46 WS, 32.6% AP = 31 Base + 15 AP

120 CB * 0.326 (AP ratio) = 39.12 CB AP + 15 = 54.12 AP and 31 Base + 80.88 CB Base = 111.88 Base

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Greenskins - Goblins

HpM: 56

MD: 26

A: 25*75% effectiveness = 18.75% base damage blocked.

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**SR**: 128 MA - 26 MD = 102 MA = 102% CTH = 95% CTH hard capped.

62.6 Base * 0.8125 = 50.9 Base + 27.4 AP = 78.3~ damage on hit.

56 HpM - 78.3 = **22.3 Overkill, Goblin dies on impact.**

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