I Solved Vivid's With Math (Guide)
I'm going to be covering 3 main things in this guide. First, I'll give an actual breakdown of the value and efficiency of each Mushroom type. Second, I'll explain how to optimize the number of Vivids you get for your pets. Third, I'll cover everything relating to Higher Forms.
Finally, I've included some additional thoughts and announcements at the bottom.
# Mushroom Value 1.0
# How Much Dust Does Each Vivid Dupe Give You? 1.1
|Vivid Rarity|Dust Amount| |:-|:-| |Rare 1|3| |Rare 2|4| |Rare 3|5| |Rare 4|7| |Fabled 1|13| |Fabled 2|19| |Fabled 3|25| |Fabled 4|32| |Mythical 1|68| |Mythical 2|102| |Mythical 3|135| |Mythical 4|169| |Absurd 1|368| |Absurd 2|552| |Absurd 3|735| |Absurd 4|919| |Higher Form|4,000|
Using these amounts and each Mushroom's odds, we can calculate the average Dust per Mushroom.
# Assume Fully Maxed Vivid Pet With HF
1x Ghost Shroom: 12.7008 1x Cosmic Truffle: 54.0034 1x Dream Reaper: 205.0279
# Assume Fully Maxed Vivid Pet Without HF
1x Ghost Shroom: 12.7008 1x Cosmic Truffle: 50.0034 1x Dream Reaper: 185.0279
# How Efficient Is Each Mushroom Type? 1.2
To compare the Dream Reaper, some assumptions need to be made.
For context, the best gem package in the shop is $99.99 for 14,000 gems, assuming it isn't a first-time purchase. This comes out to roughly $1 per 140 gems.
The best-value Dream Reaper deal is $31.99 for 8, or roughly $4 each. If we take our $1 per 140 gems and multiply it by $4, one Dream Reaper is worth approximately 560 gems.
Now, this is how much Dust you get assuming you spend the equivalent of 560 gems on each Mushroom type.
# Assume Fully Maxed Vivid Pet With HF
28x Ghost Shroom: 355.6224 5.6x Cosmic Truffle: 302.4190 1x Dream Reaper: 205.0279
# Assume Fully Maxed Vivid Pet Without HF
28x Ghost Shroom: 355.6224 5.6x Cosmic Truffle: 280.0190 1x Dream Reaper: 185.0279
# Results
# Assume Fully Maxed Vivid Pet With HF
Ghost vs. Cosmic: 17.59% more efficient. Ghost vs. Dream: 73.45% more efficient. Cosmic vs. Dream: 47.50% more efficient.
# Assume Fully Maxed Vivid Pet Without HF
Ghost Shroom vs. Cosmic Truffle: 27.00% more efficient. Ghost Shroom vs. Dream Reaper: 92.20% more efficient. Cosmic Truffle vs. Dream Reaper: 51.34% more efficient.
Essentially, per $1 spent on gems, the Dream Reaper is useless from a value perspective (P2L). More importantly, if your main focus is Dust per gem spent, Ghost Shrooms win every time.
# Optimizing Vivids Per Mushroom 2.0
It's well known throughout the community that Ghost Shrooms are better than Cosmic Truffles, but what most people get wrong is why.
I've seen many people exclusively spend their gems on Ghost Shrooms. If you purely want Dust, then yes, Ghost Shrooms are better. However, if you're looking to optimize the number of unique Vivids on a pet, you'll need to mix things up.
The biggest issue with Ghost Shrooms is their drop distribution. Their Vivid pool heavily favors Rares, with an 81.67% chance of receiving one. As you unlock more of these common Vivids, your duplicate odds steadily increase.
|Vivids Unlocked|Ghost Mushroom Dupe %| |:-|:-| |2|29.17%| |4|52.50%| |6|70.00%| |8|81.67%| |10|87.03%| |12|91.32%| |14|94.53%|
# The Advantage of Cosmic Truffles 2.1
Cosmic Truffles completely skip Rares and instead consistently give Fabled Vivids. The probability that would normally be allocated to Rares is shifted toward Fabled Vivids, with the remaining odds distributed among higher-value Vivids.
# Won't You Eventually Have the Same Problem Using Only Cosmic Truffles?
Yes. That's exactly why we can't rely exclusively on Cosmic Truffles either.
# Get More Vivids Fast — Strategy 2.2
This relies heavily on community consensus, and from what I've seen, most people consider 10–15 Vivids the sweet spot.
This strategy also takes advantage of the free Daily Ghost Mushroom, which is counted separately.
The strategy itself is pretty simple: use your free Daily Ghost Mushroom, then spend your daily gems exclusively on Cosmic Truffles. The table below shows how this plays out.
# Assumptions
* Fresh pet with 0 Vivids * 0 existing gems on the account * 1 free Ghost Mushroom per day * Player receives approximately 160 gems per day: * 80 from Bogar * 40 from Daily Quest * 40 from miscellaneous sources such as Events, Daily Calendar, and Battle Pass * Any unused gems are saved for the next day
|Day|Avg. Total Vivids| |:-|:-| |1|1.9825| |2|4.5382| |3|6.0255| |4|7.9420| |5|9.5695| |6|10.5529| |7|11.8218| |8|12.5994| |9|13.6109| |10|14.5031| |11|15.0601|
I've simulated pretty much every reasonable way of spending gems on Vivids, and consistently, nothing beats this strategy.
# 10 or 15 Vivids? 2.3
On average, by Day 5–6 you'll have reached approximately 10 Vivids, and this is where I recommend most people stop.
Reaching 15 takes roughly twice as much time for only about half as many additional Vivids. In other words, you're putting in significantly more effort and spending roughly 800–1,000 additional gems for those last five Vivids.
|Day|Items Used|New Unique Vivids| |:-|:-|:-| |1|1 Cosmic + 1 Ghost|1.9826| |2|2 Cosmic + 1 Ghost|2.5556| |3|1 Cosmic + 1 Ghost|1.4873| |4|2 Cosmic + 1 Ghost|1.9165| |5|2 Cosmic + 1 Ghost|1.6275| |6|1 Cosmic + 1 Ghost|0.9834| |7|2 Cosmic + 1 Ghost|1.2689| |8|1 Cosmic + 1 Ghost|0.7776| |9|2 Cosmic + 1 Ghost|1.0115| |10|2 Cosmic + 1 Ghost|0.8922| |11|1 Cosmic + 1 Ghost|0.5570|
This system is optimized for getting pets the most Vivid stats in the shortest period of time. However, don't forget to still roll specifically for any Vivids that are vital for a particular pet.
# Getting Higher Forms ASAP 3.0
I refer to the Optimizing Vivids Per Mushroom section here, so check that section if you're curious about where some of these numbers come from.
# 1st Higher Form: 0-to-Hero Strategy